My young friends, who come along to ride my old pony, asked me yesterday how much it would be to buy a crop ... a crop being the stick or whip used to hit horses I asked them firstly why they would want to buy one ... and they said that at the riding school they attend, everyone has a crop, so that they can 'stop a horse being naughty' ... I sat them both down and asked them what their mum does if they themselves are naughty ... does she whack them with a stick? They shuffled uncomfortably and said No, mum 'told them off' - and if they were really naughty they were sent to their rooms. I asked them what it was that the old pony was doing that they thought was naughty .... they said he keeps putting his head down to grab grass as they walk him along and he is so strong they struggle to get his head back up to walk. I am going to try get a 'Daisy rein' or something so that the cheeky pony cannot take the mickey out of the girls ... they were fascinated to find that there was a different way to deal with the problem other than using a crop to punish the pony ... I am not one for 'gadgets' at all but has anyone any experience with a 'Daisy Rein' ? Why is it okay for a riding school to charge extortionate prices for lessons ... to teach children to be cruel?
Sorry, can't help you with the Daisy Rein, never used one but seen one used and they seem to work. Are the kids too wee to just push the pony on when he's wants to graze? As for riding schools!!!!! I helped out at the one Torrie was stabled at during lessons. I led the horses for the beginners. One of the "instructors" was telling the pupils how to start a horse.....kick kick kick. To stop a horse....Pull back as hard as you can. Not once during the lesson were they told to use the voice. I whispered to the little girl to ask the horse to walk on. During the lesson the "instructor yanked the pony I was leading hard in the mouth. After the lesson finished I told the staff I would never help out in a lesson with that thing again. What had the kids learned? Not anything. When I had a lesson at the same place I was told to smack the pony I was on as it wasn't listening to the aids. I smacked my leg. When I was told off, I asked the instructor why the pony should be hit for my incompetence? All the little girls seem to have crops and I don't understand why. Haven't their little hands got enough to hold with reins? I find holding a crop difficult and my hands are bigger. I suppose we could go on forever about how kids are taught.(sigh)
Post by persianhorse on May 19, 2009 8:59:36 GMT 1
What a wise human being you are Jan, What a great way to turn someone from their wrong way and show them the right way, I wish all teachers and trainers would use the same way to show their students which way is the right way, I wonder why riding schools use the way to cruelty and also charging them for the wrong way,this is what bothers me most.
Wise Lady you are,
One way up to my knowledge is for the little kids and older too for picking up the horses head from the grass and the ground is to just simply turn the head to one side and no horse could ever resist that , just simply by holding one single rein and turn at the same time picking up the rein also the head will be picked up for sure,the job is done hopefully.
My old pony does not have a bit PH ... he is ridden in a head collar ... so he does not really care if the lead rope is pulled to one side ... he just pulls back again the second he gets the chance - and he is a lot stronger than the children. I thought that if I put a daisy rein on the head collar, behind the ears, and fasten it to the saddle (not too tight - just so he cannot get his head right down to the grass) it may help teach him not to expect to be able to get what he wants ... but I worry as it is something I have never used before ... one of my friends said put a grazing muzzle on him ... but I am not keen on this idea ... what do you think?
Post by persianhorse on May 19, 2009 14:55:03 GMT 1
Dear Jan, There is a piece of tool I don't know the specific name but I can describe it for you,this tool is like a "U" shape and it has leather attachment to its both ends and attaches to the Nose Band and it goes under the Jaw and it comes out in front of the horses mouth but longer and when the horse wants to eat this "U" shape would touch the ground and the horses lips and teeth can not reach the grass or the food and can not grab it with its teeth,this way horse can not eat with this tool attached to his/her head collar,have I describe it well?I hope I have,this is a good tool for stiping the horse from grazing and much better than the grazing muzzle. It is made of hard plastic.
My late cob's mother was a sweetie and her owner's young daughter used to wander round their farm and neighbouring village with absolute safety BUT... once she had got her head down, there was no way on earth that a young child was going to get it up again! They made an improvised daisy rein with baler twine from the noseband to the D rings on the saddle and everything was fine. I think a daisy rein is definitely the way to go. Do you think they can make a human version so that we would stop "grazing" too and lose some weight?
Ive got to say, I too have had a pony like this and it is no fun. The worst is that Polo would be fine for a while and then just when you perhaps wanted to go into canter or trot, she would stop dead and head down for grass, leaving you suspended, if you were lucky, over her shoulders, or at worst off on the deck with extremely sore shoulders of your own where they had hit the floor. Polo was only 12.2h but very clever and very strong. We used a daisy rein in the end and it worked well. We found that eventually we were able to take it off after a few months and the problem was solved.